{"id":20940,"date":"2024-04-30T14:25:48","date_gmt":"2024-04-30T14:25:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/?p=20940"},"modified":"2026-05-23T16:04:04","modified_gmt":"2026-05-23T16:04:04","slug":"5-questions-que-les-cisos-doivent-se-poser-avant-daccepter-un-nouvel-emploi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/fr\/5-questions-cisos-should-ask-before-taking-a-new-job\/","title":{"rendered":"5 questions qu\u2019un RSSI devrait se poser avant de prendre un nouveau poste"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"20940\" class=\"elementor elementor-20940\" wpc-filter-elementor-widget=\"1\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-5a1e432 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"5a1e432\" data-element_type=\"section\" 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poste<\/strong><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-eb2ba49 elementor-section-items-stretch elementor-section-height-min-height elementor-section-content-middle elementor-section-stretched elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"eb2ba49\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;stretch_section&quot;:&quot;section-stretched&quot;,&quot;_ha_eqh_enable&quot;:false}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-background-overlay\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-84c220a syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"84c220a\" 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bas<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-7d3a5aa elementor-section-stretched elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"7d3a5aa\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;stretch_section&quot;:&quot;section-stretched&quot;,&quot;_ha_eqh_enable&quot;:false}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-897c130 syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"897c130\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d9872e5 syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"d9872e5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0b63033 elementor-drop-cap-yes elementor-drop-cap-view-default syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0b63033\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;drop_cap&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em>\"Vous prenez la pilule bleue et tout s'arr\u00eate, pour que vous puissiez faire de doux r\u00eaves et vous lancer sans pr\u00e9paration dans votre nouveau r\u00f4le de RSSI. Vous prenez la pilule rouge, restez au pays des merveilles et descendez avec le lapin blanc pour voir jusqu'o\u00f9 le terrier du RSSI s'\u00e9tend.\"<\/em> \u2013 Morpheus, probablement.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2767d6e syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2767d6e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Dans le domaine de plus en plus complexe de la cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9, le r\u00f4le de Directeur de la S\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l'Information est plus crucial que jamais. Cependant, m\u00eame si la r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration est g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement g\u00e9n\u00e9reuse (jamais suffisante !), il est crucial de poser les bonnes questions avant d'accepter un nouveau poste. Voici ce que chaque RSSI devrait consid\u00e9rer pendant sa recherche d'emploi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pourquoi l'entreprise a-t-elle besoin d'un RSSI ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Comprendre pourquoi une entreprise cherche \u00e0 embaucher un RSSI peut offrir des perspectives profondes sur sa maturit\u00e9 en mati\u00e8re de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 et ses intentions. Le besoin d'un nouveau RSSI peut survenir suite \u00e0 un d\u00e9part pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent, une violation r\u00e9cente des donn\u00e9es, ou peut-\u00eatre s'agit-il de la premi\u00e8re initiative de l'entreprise pour marquer son ambition dans le domaine cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9. La raison de cette embauche peut indiquer si le r\u00f4le est strat\u00e9gique ou simplement en r\u00e9action \u00e0 un \u00e9v\u00e9nement ou un simple besoin de conformit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>La culture de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l'entreprise correspond-elle \u00e0 la v\u00f4tre ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pour favoriser une culture de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 forte dans une entreprise, il est crucial de commencer par un \"pourquoi\" convaincant. Lorsque les employ\u00e9s comprennent les raisons derri\u00e8re la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 informatique \u2014 comme la mani\u00e8re dont les bonnes pratiques permettent le travail \u00e0 distance et prot\u00e8gent contre les menaces cybern\u00e9tiques \u2014 ils sont plus susceptibles de s'engager et d'adopter les changements de comportement n\u00e9cessaires. Les histoires illustrant les cons\u00e9quences r\u00e9elles des violations de donn\u00e9es peuvent rendre les risques tangibles et pertinents. Par cons\u00e9quent, bien qu'il soit important de d\u00e9tailler les changements n\u00e9cessaires et la mani\u00e8re de les mettre en \u0153uvre, inspirer les employ\u00e9s avec un \"pourquoi\" solide est la premi\u00e8re \u00e9tape dans la construction d'une culture de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 efficace. Ensuite, bien s\u00fbr, le \"quoi\" et le \"comment\" du programme de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l\u2019entreprise sont \u00e9galement importants.<\/p>\n<p><strong>La vision de la cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l'entreprise est-elle en accord avec la v\u00f4tre ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Des attentes non align\u00e9es sur les strat\u00e9gies de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 peuvent entra\u00eener des d\u00e9fis significatifs \u00e0 long terme. Il est crucial d'investiguer si l'approche de l'entreprise est en accord avec la v\u00f4tre. Cela aide non seulement \u00e0 \u00e9valuer si vous pourrez travailler efficacement, mais aussi si vous aurez le soutien n\u00e9cessaire pour impl\u00e9menter votre vision.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Avec qui allez-vous travailler ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La force et la composition de l'\u00e9quipe de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 existante peuvent \u00eatre un facteur d\u00e9cisif. Comprendre qui compose l'\u00e9quipe de cybers\u00e9curit\u00e9 aidera \u00e0 \u00e9valuer comment vous pouvez collaborer, communiquer et diriger efficacement. Il est essentiel d'\u00e9valuer la maturit\u00e9, la stabilit\u00e9 et les capacit\u00e9s non seulement de l'\u00e9quipe, mais aussi de votre \u00e9quipe \u00e9largie. Il s'agit d'\u00e9valuer si vous aurez le bon m\u00e9lange de professionnels internes et externes. Ce m\u00e9lange est important pour permettre \u00e0 une organisation d'\u00eatre agile, proactive et robuste dans sa gestion et sa mitigation des cybermenaces, tout en favorisant une culture d'apprentissage et d'am\u00e9lioration continue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rapporter au PDG ou non, telle est la question ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La question de savoir si un Directeur de la S\u00e9curit\u00e9 de l'Information doit rapporter au Directeur G\u00e9n\u00e9ral (PDG) ou au Directeur des Syst\u00e8mes d'Information (DSI) est significative. Cette configuration, bien qu'elle soit diff\u00e9rente, n'est pas n\u00e9cessairement n\u00e9gative mais offre une m\u00e9thode alternative pour g\u00e9rer et att\u00e9nuer les risques au sein d'une entreprise. Tous les r\u00f4les de RSSI n'offrent pas une v\u00e9ritable autorit\u00e9 de niveau Comex, ce qui rend difficile pour les RSSI d'\u00eatre reconnus \u00e0 la juste place au sein de leurs organisations. Il est crucial de d\u00e9terminer si la position permet un acc\u00e8s direct au conseil d'administration et \u00e0 la direction ex\u00e9cutive, car cela influence grandement la capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 impulser le changement. Le raisonnement est le m\u00eame pour les autres fonctions qui ne sont pas repr\u00e9sent\u00e9es au Comex et cela n\u2019est pas une fin en soi.<\/p>\n<p>Les consid\u00e9rations cl\u00e9s pour les RSSI dans de telles structures incluent le contr\u00f4le de leur budget (id\u00e9alement 10%-15% du budget IT total), la flexibilit\u00e9 du DSI et le nombre de rapports directs au DSI, ce qui peut influencer l'influence et la visibilit\u00e9 du RSSI.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3d15c4d elementor-widget-divider--view-line_icon elementor-view-default elementor-widget-divider--element-align-center syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"3d15c4d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-icon elementor-divider__element\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fas fa-star\"><\/i><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8ab4586 syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8ab4586\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Le r\u00f4le d'un RSSI n'est pas une petite responsabilit\u00e9, et les enjeux sont \u00e9lev\u00e9s non seulement pour l'entreprise mais aussi pour votre carri\u00e8re. Prendre le temps d'\u00e9valuer soigneusement les employeurs potentiels et les d\u00e9fis sp\u00e9cifiques du r\u00f4le peut conduire \u00e0 une meilleure satisfaction professionnelle et \u00e0 un mandat plus r\u00e9ussi. N'oubliez jamais, un entretien est une rue \u00e0 double sens; il s'agit autant de trouver la bonne ad\u00e9quation organisationnelle pour vous que pour l'entreprise de trouver le bon candidat.<\/p>\n<p>N'oubliez jamais qu'un entretien est une voie \u00e0 double sens ; il s'agit autant pour vous de trouver la bonne ad\u00e9quation avec l'organisation que pour l'entreprise de trouver le bon candidat.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-98701a8 syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-testimonial\" data-id=\"98701a8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"testimonial.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta elementor-has-image elementor-testimonial-image-position-aside\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-meta-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1394\" height=\"1511\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-19214\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS.jpg 1394w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-277x300.jpg 277w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-945x1024.jpg 945w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-768x832.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-11x12.jpg 11w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-1000x1084.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-230x249.jpg 230w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-350x379.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.stroople.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/JFS-480x520.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1394px) 100vw, 1394px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-details\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-name\">Jean-Fran\u00e7ois SCHOONHEERE<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-testimonial-job\">PDG et fondateur de Stroople<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9dd8c89 elementor-align-center syd-sticky-section-no elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"9dd8c89\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/newsletters\/7120442855684231170\/?displayConfirmation=true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">S'abonner sur LinkedIn<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-99bc826 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"99bc826\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_ha_eqh_enable&quot;:false}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f1ffa9d syd-sticky-section-no\" data-id=\"f1ffa9d\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>5 questions CISOs should ask before taking a new job 5 questions CISOs should ask before taking a new job Scroll Down [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":20941,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[115],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20940","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-governance-risk-compliance-cybersecurity"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.7 - 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